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[jazzplease]

Hey People,

Hope things are well for all of u. I'm wondering what are your opinions on isolating areas of the fretboard so that you can learn to solo over a song, or so that you can learn just a small area of the fretboard at a time. I'm thinking it might help, as I'm finding it difficult to recall all the different positions of any particular scale when I'm playing and the chords are changing.

cheers again for the advice

Jack
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Temptation,
Temptation.
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[alfonso]

Jack,
If you're learning a melody line to a standard or any song it's always better to keep your fingerings within the first 4 to 5 frets you start on, you don't want to make drastic moves clear across the fretboard, here's a site that might help you out with your scales. At first you just need to learn your major scale across the entire fretboard, all majors have relative minors so that's it in a nutshell. Of course you would want to learn the pentatonics as well. peace

http://www.tedvieira.com/lessons.html

[Jazzy]

Jazzplease, I think "position-playing" is important. Do you know all the major-scales in the 5 caged positions?
Then try improvising on a vamp like this: Cmaj7 - Ebmaj7 - Amaj7 - Gbmaj7
, just staying in one position through all the changes. Then move to the next position etc.
Also, very important in my opinion, work on improvising using only one string. And then two strings eventually. This way, you can`t rely on your licks.

[jazzplease]

Hey Jazzy and Alfonso,

thanks for the input. Yeah, I've been practicing my major scales in the 5 positions. I could probably play any major scale in any position, but I'd need a minute to work it out again in my head. I will continue to practice them as I know (from every person involved in jazz that I've talked to) that they are super important.

At the moment I'm learning the F blues. I'm trying to keep my goals somewhat easy, so I thought for the moment that I would just try to learn the arpeggios to the chords over the first 6 frets and try to solo and create chord voicings from those notes. What do you think of this approach? I could put my major scale practice to use and practice it modally instead, but I wanna learn to voice these chords.

thanks again
_________________
"You can plant a house, you can build a tree. I don't even care." K.C.

"Temptation,
Temptation,
Temptation.
I just can't resist."
T. W.

[alfonso]

Jack,
When you're playing your F blues you would mainly stay with your minor scales or pentatonics, I mean there are some turnarounds where I'll throw in a major scale but mostly you play pentatonics or the mixolydian mode. As far as the voicings, what are you trying to comp for another player or what, voicings are important and if you want other voicings go to this link.

http://www.all-guitar-chords.com/index.php?ch=F&mm=7&v=9

[jazzplease]

Well, I don't really know exactly who I'll be playing with but there is sure to be another guitarist, a pianist and a drummer among others. But of course I wanna learn how to play with all kinds of musicians. I'll check out the link for sure.

I know the pentatonic quite well actually. I always slip into it by accident cos it's the only sound I have a feel for. Yes, I wanna learn the mixolydian too of course...but I wanna learn the arpeggios first...cos when I play, I wanna learn to know what note I'm on before I learn to burn on the mixolydian. I wanna be able to see the 1st's, 3rd's, 5th's and 7th's of the chord I'm on and the chord I'm going to next.

I'm not saying I won't play the mixolydian until I have arpeggios down but I kinda feel arpeggios are more important right now.

But feel free to disagree and tell me why! Anyone! I'm all ears!
_________________
"You can plant a house, you can build a tree. I don't even care." K.C.

"Temptation,
Temptation,
Temptation.
I just can't resist."
T. W.

[jokron]

[jazzplease]

Godammit!! Why didnt I think of that? Man...I even already have that article! That is a good idea, especially when I'm thinking about it in terms of an isolated part of the fretboard. Nice suggestion! Thanks
_________________
"You can plant a house, you can build a tree. I don't even care." K.C.

"Temptation,
Temptation,
Temptation.
I just can't resist."
T. W.

[jazzplease]

Man, aebersold approach is exhausting! I only played for an hour. That was my first well directed practice session in some time. Thanks again for the suggestion. But I have another question now. As I'm learning the F blues with this progression...

F7 /Bb7 /F7 /F7

Bb7 /Bb7 /F7 /Am7(b5) Dm7

Gm7 /C7 /F7 /Gm7 C7

...can I just clear up exactly what scales I should be playing.

F7 - F mixolydian
Bb7 - Eb mixolydian
Am7(b5) - ....just an arpeggio as it's only a half bar?
Dm7 - ....just an arpeggio as it's only a half bar?
Gm7 - G dorian
C7 - C mixolydian

Is that ok?
_________________
"You can plant a house, you can build a tree. I don't even care." K.C.

"Temptation,
Temptation,
Temptation.
I just can't resist."
T. W.

[jokron]

[jazzplease]

Very interesting idea Igiro, thanks again for the tip. I look forward to being able to see things like that. Yes, right, I meant Eb major or Bb mixolydian.

Jokron, yes you're quite right, I should read the book. I will read the book. I took the scales from AN aebersold document.

www.musiccamp.ku.edu/pdf/jrjazz/Junior_bone_piano_bass.pdf

The scales used are listed at the bottom of the page. I didn't want to just start practicing it without consulting anyone at all.
_________________
"You can plant a house, you can build a tree. I don't even care." K.C.

"Temptation,
Temptation,
Temptation.
I just can't resist."
T. W.

[jokron]

[jazzplease]

yeah, I was thinking I aught to buy some aebersold playalongs. As soon as I get my hands on some cash!
_________________
"You can plant a house, you can build a tree. I don't even care." K.C.

"Temptation,
Temptation,
Temptation.
I just can't resist."
T. W.

[alfonso]

jazzplease,
Until you can get to an Aebersold book there are a few sites on the net that have decent playalongs. I mean there's only a handful but sometimes it beats playing solo, I don't go to the rock sites so these are the ones I know about. peace

http://www.bluesyoucanuse.com/

http://www.pego.be/

http://www.swingblues.com/

[alfonso]

Here's your F blues.

http://www.jazzitalia.net/lezioni/randyhunter/rh_bluesbythestep1_eng.asp