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ozRocker
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 Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:12 pm Post subject: What would a 1 2b 2 chord be? |
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I know what you're thinking ...."Why would you want to play that?"
There is a chord name for everything but I'm stuck when it comes to this one...and yes, it is actually playable (if you shuffle some octaves around). |
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ozRocker
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm also curious as to what a 1 3b 3 chord might be |
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JakeJew
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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in standard chord naming, that chord makes no sense. Do you mean a chord that contains just the 1, b2, and 2?
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ozRocker
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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yeh a 1, b2, and 2
also 1, b3, and 3
Is it incorrect to place the flat symbol after the interval number? |
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JakeJew
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| ozRocker wrote: | yeh a 1, b2, and 2
also 1, b3, and 3
Is it incorrect to place the flat symbol after the interval number? |
a chord containing 1, b2, and 2 would scholastically be called a cluster. You could call it many things depending on context, but why would you want to call it something? I guess you could say it's a sus2omit5b9, but that's just silly.
I'd say the same thing about 1, b3, and 3 - why name it?
Now, if you show me the sequence or progression that it's relevant to than I might be more helpful. But honestly I think with this kind of stuff I don't see the point in getting into chord names.
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lou309
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Well most chords have a 3rd and 7th, you really don't need the root or the 5th.
The best I can come with is a root, flat 9th natural 9th a chromatic run good
for passing tones. The 1, b3, 3, some type of Maj min, don't think I ever tried that
in a note sequence. Also the 2 and 6 or 9 and 13th are your pretty scale tones.
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Bjorn
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: What would a 1 2b 2 chord be? |
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| Quote: | | ozRocker wrote: | I know what you're thinking ...."Why would you want to play that?"
There is a chord name for everything but I'm stuck when it comes to this one...and yes, it is actually playable (if you shuffle some octaves around). |
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If it doesn´t nessesarily have to be, 1 b2, 2. But it could be something else, you could try this:
C double harmonic minor scale: C-D-Eb-F#-G-Ab-B.
C double harmonic major scale: C-Db-E-F-G-Ab-B
| Quote: | | I'm also curious as to what a 1 3b 3 chord might be |
This 3-note cell comes from the Augmented scale.
C Augmented scale: C-Eb-E-G-G#-B
: C-Eb-E-G-G#-B
: C-Eb-E-G-G#-B.
Hope this may help a bit.......
Bjørn.
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ozRocker
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I figured every chord would have a name. At the moment I'm testing my chord theory by trying to name random chords. Doesn't a 9th chord require a 7th? Otherwise its a sus2 (with no 3rd) or add9 |
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Bjorn
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | ozRocker wrote: | | Doesn't a 9th chord require a 7th? Otherwise its a sus2 (with no 3rd) or add9 |
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Is it JakeJews chord name you´re talking about??
If so you´re right, you would call it sus2omit5addb9.....
Hehe, its gettin´ quiet big for such a little chord to be..... 
Bjørn.....
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dewey decibel
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Oz- I agree with Jake, you can't name these chords unless they're in a context, otherwise there's no point.
Another thing to consider is are we talking about chords or voicings? Just because a chord says G7 doesn't mean we need to play all the notes in G7 in our voicing. So, 1 b3 3 could be a 7#9 chord, or just a triad with a #9 (although that would be rare). Again, that's where the context comes in.
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JakeJew
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| dewey decibel wrote: | Hey Oz- I agree with Jake, you can't name these chords unless they're in a context, otherwise there's no point.
Another thing to consider is are we talking about chords or voicings? Just because a chord says G7 doesn't mean we need to play all the notes in G7 in our voicing. So, 1 b3 3 could be a 7#9 chord, or just a triad with a #9 (although that would be rare). Again, that's where the context comes in.
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yeah, being creative with voicings you get all sorts of interesting things that are hard to name.
I mean, you could easily comp an entire tune with just half steps....2 and b3 for m7, 6 and b7 for dom7, 5 and b5 for maj7, etc etc
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ozRocker
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| Bjorn wrote: | | ozRocker wrote: | | If so you´re right, you would call it sus2omit5addb9..... |
Hehe, its gettin´ quiet big for such a little chord to be.....
Bjørn..... |
I think you've got it!
http://jguitar.com/chordsearch?chordsearch=Gsus2addb9
So what's a 1 b3 3? |
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ozRocker
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| figured it out. Its an add#9 |
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Bjorn
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | ozRocker wrote: |
So what's a 1 b3 3? |
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Did you take a look at my earlier post..??
Does that have anything to do with what you´re looking for??
Bjørn...??
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