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[jazzplease]

Hello again forum. this is my first post since christmas, cos I sorta hit a rut and didnt really feel like playing. But I've been playing again for about 2 months and very glad to be back! I love reading the posts here. Gives me energy to practice.

Anyway, my question. I was wondering if anyone can sum up the major differences between classical music theory and jazz theory. I've been told they are very different, and of course I can hear the differences - but from a more studious point of view, how are they different?
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[Gorecki]

I can't say the 'theory' is different, only the application.

Otherwise the only other distinct differences that come to mind are Jazz makes use of Blues, Classical doesn't. Jazz encourages improv where classical doesn't.

Otherwise don't consider it as much as a 'theory' difference, but more of a 'language' difference.
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[mr. beaumont]

well, the melodic minor doesn't change whether ascending or descending in jazz...
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[cjm]

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[cjm]

I thought for sure Duke Ellington's lyrical admonition would be picked up on at a jazz guitar site as a working explanation of jazz theory.

[jazzplease]

[jokron]

May I recommend this:

http://www.standingstones.com/theorcnr.html

/Jokron
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[hanni]

@jokron,

i checked your link and it´s the same like in a classic music theory book i use too, (can´t get another book with the explaining of minor scales here) but i´m not sure if the analysis is the same, i´m just search for an e-book download in jazzmusic theory, maybe someone in this forum knows ?.....later

[jokron]

[mr. beaumont]

another one...the vi chord in jazz will often be made a dominant...
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[JakeJew]

They really are incredibly different languages. Having had lots of experience with jazz analysis and very little experience with what we're referring to here as "classical" analysis, I can't say much because I don't know much about the other side. There are a lot more than just a few subtle differences...
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[jokron]

Well Bach and Jazz ain't that different the difference is mostly about instrumentation and rythm, listen to Swingle Singers...

http://www.swinglesingers.com/music/index.html

...or David J Grossman playing Bach on an electric bass http://www.jsbach.net/bass/

/Jokron
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[JakeJew]

Sorry, I meant more so the methods of analysis and discussion, not what the music sounds like.
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[hanni]

don´t know the name, vi chord, maybe i use it under another name, i copied a fat chordchart from www.guitarspace.de in word and print it out.