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[Super Locrian]

Hello, first post on this forum, looks like a cool place to hang!

I'm a hobby guitarist, trying to get more serious about studying the instrument.

My current area of focus is II-V-I progressions. Basically, I'd like to get a systematic overview over how many basic types of II-V-I progressions there are (for instance, resolving to major I vs. minor I), and what are some typical approaches, scale-wise, for playing over them. (For instance,
half-dim. II chord - altered V chord - maj7 I chord.)

I think what I need is a nice chart. I realize the possibilities are endless, but I'm looking for a good starting point for practicing.
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highly strung

[gersdal]

I'm not sure if I understand your question, but these are good sources of information:
http://members.cox.net/joe.bianco/guitar/251_tutor/major_rootless/drop2-4321.htm
http://www.jeff-brent.com/Lessons/BrentsRootlessii-V-IJazzChordSequences.pdf
http://www.jeff-brent.com/Lessons/BrentsRootlessii-V-IJazzChordSequences.pdf

[Super Locrian]

Thank you Gersdal -- from a fellow Norwegian West Coaster. Lefse og graut, and all that jazz!

Sorry for the clumsily worded question. What I want to improve upon, is the melodic part - sologin over the changes. I'm a little stuck in the "1 scale per chord" approach, and I want to be able to navigate the changes more efficiently. So looking at a II-V-I progression, do you for instance usually use half-diminished for the II chord, altered scale for the V chord, leading to either major or dorian for the I chord? In short, how exactly do you approach the II-V-I in terms of scale choice?
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[Jazzy]

[MangoTango]

Never mind Locrian or Phrygian, this thread appears to be in Norwegian mode.
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[Jazzy]

[Henryrobinett]

I'd start out simply. Take one octave sections for the ii -V and I chords, in arpeggiated fashion. Practice some common patterns. Build phrases starting on all the different chord tones. Take your time. The problem with guitar is you have to do each in all different positions.

Next you have to apply them to simple tunes like Tune Up, Solar, Afternoon In Paris, etc, that have ii-Vs in them.

Then a ton of listening to how folks do it. Check out Sonny Rollins.
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All the best,

Henry Robinett
www.henryrobinett.com

[peckerwood]

thanks, gersdal! i just spent the past hour slamming over some of those cool inversions...some of these i never would have thought of on my own.