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What do you mainly improvise over? POLL

 
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What do you mainly improvise over?
Standards / Tunes
66%
 66%  [ 12 ]
Rythm Changes
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Blues
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Bop (Bebop to post bop)
11%
 11%  [ 2 ]
Trad / Swing
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Free
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Modal
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Experimantal
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Modern (whatever that is currently...)
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 18

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princeplanet



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:06 pm    Post subject: What do you mainly improvise over? POLL Reply with quote

I know you do a bit of everything, but what is your MAIN bag?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: What do you mainly improvise over? POLL Reply with quote

princeplanet wrote:
I know you do a bit of everything, but what is your MAIN bag?


My main bag is exactly that - a bit of everything. If I have to say one thing from your list, I would guess that it's blues, but I really wouldn't want to limit myself by definitions. It's all music, right?
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randalljazz



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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mostly bossa nova, some samba, these days (but not 'samba dees days')...would like to be playing a more of the clifford, horace, benny golson stuff again... Cool
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all of it

You don't have the option for original compositions. For that I would put it in every category as well anyway so that's a moot point.
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princeplanet



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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Jake Hanlon"]all of it

You don't have the option for original compositions. For that I would put it in every category as well anyway so that's a moot point.[/quote]

Yeah I know, I wanted 2 other categories, Latin and "Other" but the didn't make it. I couldn't even go back to respell "Experimental"... anyway, still interesting how many notches for Standards. It means lots of cats round here still like to play to changes...
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you ask?
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mr. beaumont



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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put standards/tunes, i guess, because that's what it seems i end up playing mostly.

I've been doing a lot more writing lately as well, though, so i guess i'd be a vote for originals as well...
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princeplanet



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="JakeJew"]Why do you ask?[/quote]
Just curious- actually I'm heartened to see that many are into the old tunes. Makes me feel less redundant... ;0)
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Generic Sobriquet



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't that be more redundant?
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princeplanet



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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Generic Sobriquet"]Wouldn't that be [i]more[/i] redundant?[/quote]
Not if these old tunes are kept alive by folks either playing them or listening... There's always ways to try a new spin on things and lets face it, the old tunes had the best changes for melodicism, if yer into that kinda thing....
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The hardest thing for me to solo over are bop changes and make them sound really legitimate, so I work on those mainly. I play mostly standards -- but concentrate on boppish tunes. I realized a few years ago that I didn't exactly have it right. I still don't. And my intention is not to EXACTLY play like a bopper from the mid 40s-mid 50s, but to nail the changes in a bop fashion and sound legit, with modern overtones.
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cjm



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So much of bebop was built upon standards from tin pan alley...that's where I gravitated.

You look at what a lot of people today associate with bebop and yeah...it's weighted toward stuff composed by the guys who invented bebop.

But you look at what they mostly played...well most of it was a bebop sensibility applied to standards...so I voted standards while thinking bop.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cjm - totally understand! Bop introduced those ii-Vs to standards and changes. And those little extra notes. Even though some of the tunes were the same the attitude was different.
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cjm



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how do you really define it?

To me, if standards and bop are defined as an either/or proposition, then it must imply that standards are played square with mostly the original chords and probably a big helping of schmaltz.

And if you play bop without applying bop to standards, it's either going to be a short evening, or you have to play every song for 20 minutes...
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