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acoustic steel string flat top for jazz

 
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LarryB



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:41 pm    Post subject: acoustic steel string flat top for jazz Reply with quote

What would be the best, or a good, acoustic steel string flat top guitar suitable for jazz?
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randyc



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The beautiful elliptical shape of the lower bout reminds me of those pretty flat-tops that Guild once produced. It's a unique shape and other manufacturers never quite got it right esthetically (for me) although little influence on tonal quality is suggested by subtle differences in contour.
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Jazzy



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazing!!! ( although a bit too expensive for me. )
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LarryB



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whew. Those are pricey. Maybe I should just change my qualifier to "acceptable."
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voodobop



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I had to get a flat top I would look into the Collings OM or 000 series, which are less expensive and very good flat tops (I think archtops are more buscarinos forte) and I dont know what makes that flattop particular to jazz anyway.

Also a Taylor auditorium or concert model if your budget is small.
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Jazz Playa



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow with flatop acoustics there are so many that would work. Takamine, Martin, and Taylor all have nice selections of models that would work. You could also try a Godin steel string if you're into the hybrid thing with reduced feedback issues to worry about.
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gibson175



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about one of those gitane selmer replicas. They play easy, plenty loud and of course that style of guitar has a long jazz tradition.
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mr. beaumont



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything OM or similar (or smaller) should work fine. I've played some jazz on a drednaught, but felt the dred's claims to fame (big bottom, sparkly high) were kind of the opposite of what my jazz chording wanted (nice mids)
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can play good jazz on just about any flattop guitar--steel or nylon string. For traditional sounds, however, you don't really want lots of sustain. Thus, a nylon-string guitar is closer of the sound of an archtop than is a steel-string flattop. The note envelope decays sooner.

Believe it or not, some of the Ovation guitars excel in this capacity, which is why Al Dimeola and Larry Coryell used them. They are loud, with a punchy attack and less sustain than Martins, Taylors, etc.

That said, Lenny Breau got great mileage out of the Gibson Mark series flattop.
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Jazz Playa



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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

greentone wrote:
You can play good jazz on just about any flattop guitar--steel or nylon string. For traditional sounds, however, you don't really want lots of sustain. Thus, a nylon-string guitar is closer of the sound of an archtop than is a steel-string flattop. The note envelope decays sooner.

Believe it or not, some of the Ovation guitars excel in this capacity, which is why Al Dimeola and Larry Coryell used them. They are loud, with a punchy attack and less sustain than Martins, Taylors, etc.

That said, Lenny Breau got great mileage out of the Gibson Mark series flattop.


I couldn't agree more, I have always liked the high-end Ovations, Balladeer, Legend, and Custom Legend for playing jazz guitar. If you get your hands on a nice example they are in a completely different league than the lower-end models you see everywhere. They just have a certain tone that really lends itself to jazz style playing, and really fast necks too. I've always found those models to have nice sustain too.
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