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Tombolino



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:46 am    Post subject: Lame question about transcribing Reply with quote

Hi

I want to know about how you do it....

When you are learning licks or passages, do you feel obligated to learn entire solos even when they have passages that dont quite make sense or have little phrases that are not so musical....?

As I am embarking on this, I run across such little passages that come after or before a cool lick that are simply not memorable...

what do u think?

thanks
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lex_robben



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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tombolino,

I have the same problem as you. I dwell too long on bits which I don't think I'll ever borrow for my own improvisations but for completeness, I would transcribe them anyway. Think I may have a little bit of jazz transcription OCD Laughing
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Jazz Playa



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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back when I was doing a lot of transcription if there was a section(s) of a solo that I really didn't like I would put my own idea(s) in that section, and it worked great. That's probably much harder to do if you're a beginner tho.

That's very different from coping out because you can't figure out the notes in a section. If that's happening then that means you need to work on your ear training, fretboard knowledge, or some other area of your playing more. Sad
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Volume Swell



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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I hear something I really like that's among a lot of things I don't like, I'll learn that one lick.

That being said, I'll look at the harmony and the approach to see why I really like it. There are plenty of times when I'll learn a lick, only to realize later that it wasn't that particular lick that was cool... but the setup to it.
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mr. beaumont



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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, there's different reasons to transcribe.

if you're doing it to work on ear training and music notation ability, then yeah, do the whole thing.

if you're looking to cop some stuff and get some new ideas, take what you like and spend more time on the analysis than worrying about getting it "right."

inevitably, someone will bring up "well that's what barney kessel did..." but I don't see a whole lot of value in learning to play someone else's solo note for note. To me, analyzing the structure and "how" the cool parts work against the harmony is the important thing.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't understand some passages in a song/solo maybe you should take it a step down and go to easier ones. Once you've unraveled all the secrets in those you should be able to understand most songs.
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