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JakeJew



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jens wrote:
The idea about RH movement when changing strings is indeed food for thought Smile Thanks!

I'm not sure if you find this interesting but here are a few Steve Morse etudes I have been using a lot:

http://www.stevemorse.info/tab/personal.jpg
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The last one is an exercise in open or drop 2 triads which Pat Metheny also uses in this warm up session (around 3.33):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcETmST9BoY

Jens


Steve Morse is so unbelievable. I was into him when I was a teenager but haven't paid him much attention lately, but watching some youtube vids and reading interviews has been really blowing my mind.

Even if one doesn't like the style (or styles) of music Steve plays, it's hard not to respect the guy. At least in terms of technique and musicianships he is, to me, one of the greatest guitarists of all time.

Listen to the guitar solo here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VohubM8Hls4

Has anybody ever watched/used any of his instructional videos or books?
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Jazzy



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jake, thanks for that link, that`s some great playing. He`s a brilliant guitarist.

I`ve also used the 2 etudes Jens posted a lot, especially the first one. I think I`ve given that to about 20 students or so Smile

But personally I think it can be a bit over the top to just use alternate picking. I try to let the phrase dictate the picking in some kinda way. F. ex. when Metheny plays the open triads in that video ( in triplets ), I think he picks down - down - up. I also find that much easier than to play it with alternate picking.

( And as someone mentiond, the speed mechanics, this is a great book for technique building. )
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jazzy wrote:
Jake, thanks for that link, that`s some great playing. He`s a brilliant guitarist.

I`ve also used the 2 etudes Jens posted a lot, especially the first one. I think I`ve given that to about 20 students or so Smile

But personally I think it can be a bit over the top to just use alternate picking. I try to let the phrase dictate the picking in some kinda way. F. ex. when Metheny plays the open triads in that video ( in triplets ), I think he picks down - down - up. I also find that much easier than to play it with alternate picking.

( And as someone mentiond, the speed mechanics, this is a great book for technique building. )


Hey Michael glad you posted here because I was going to send you a PM - you've often mentioned practicing Bach partitas for technique. Which ones? I've found several but they are all polyphonic and for some reason I assumed you were talking about something for monophonic playing.

As for alternating or not, I agree, the phrasing should dictate it. I think the way Steve holds the pick and the way he practices allows him to really play anything he wants with alternate picking. Even though the tone and time feel have little to do with the kind of jazz we usually discuss on this board, I'm certainly envious of the ability. As I mentioned in my first post, my picking abilities are extremely idiosyncratic, there are some things I can do very well and some simple things that I can't do very fast at all. It would be killer to get it all at the same speed.

I've also been experimenting with economy picking lately. It's amazing how quick some things can get , but controlling the rhythm and dynamic is the big challenge, at least for me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jake, I have these two books:

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Suites-Unaccompanied-Cello-Sonatas/dp/0486256413/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1280271662&sr=1-3

http://www.amazon.com/Mel-Bay-Bach-Partitas-1001-1006/dp/0786673338/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1280271759&sr=1-12

( Also get this one: http://www.amazon.com/Harmonized-Chorales-Chorale-Melodies-Figured/dp/0793525748/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1280271840&sr=1-2 , this is just a goldmine of finding new voiceleading ideas. )

Yeah, I`ve been practicing economy picking for a while, but I found out that a combination of that and alternate was the best for me. Of course with slurs and all that. What I do practice quite a bit, is simple exercises isolating inside and outside picking. I`m not really a very fast picker, so I guess I should be practicing this much more, hehe.
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