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Inverting R 5 9 3 7 4

 
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JakeJew



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:22 pm    Post subject: Inverting R 5 9 3 7 4 Reply with quote

Edit: See second post.

Can't actually be played as a voicing - these are arpeggios. But one could play sections of the arpeggio as voicings and get some wild stuff. Get ready to stretch.

So, this chord has been around for a while:

E A D G B E
5 7 9 5 8 10

The "Soap Opera Sad" chord as one of my students once called it. It's m11 as R 5 9 b3 b7 4.

Adjust for different types that are triads with two tensions (9 and 11):

maj7#11
R 5 9 3 7 #4

7#11
R 5 9 3 b7 #4

m11b5
R b5 9 b3 b7 4

m7#11
R 5 9 b3 b7 #4

minmaj7#11
R 5 9 b3 7 #4

maj7#9#11

R 5 #9 3 7 #11


And then, the inversions:

R59374

9734R5

3R4597

42573R

537R49

74R953

I think the voicings that have either the R, 3 or 5 on the bass do a better job of retaining the sound of the chord, and they also just sound better to my ears.

Adjust for all and any chord type, then voice lead through standard progressions.

Again, can't be played as a voicing (unless if you want to end up in the hospital) however can be arpeggiated (most application) and sections of the chords can be played as voicings. For example, R b5 9 b3 b7 4 is impossible but these are possible:

R b5 9 b3

b5 9 b3 b7

9 b3 b7 4

b5 9 b7 4

R (skip octave) b3 b7 4

b5 9 b3 b7 4 (strings 6 5 4 3 and 1(

etc. Parts of the voicings. In the inversions there is some wild stuff.

This is not an original idea, I got a hint and I had to do some of the work.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to actually plug the other forum, but Bako over there actually had a much better explanation of these voicings then mine:

http://www.jazzguitar.be/forum/improvisation/16135-inverting-r57934.html#post156519
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting stuff Jake. Definitely yields some good sounds. Thanks for posting the link too. Much easier to see them as triad pairs.

Paul
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