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recording archtop: clicking noises from the pick

 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:06 pm    Post subject: recording archtop: clicking noises from the pick Reply with quote

Hi,

I'm in the midst of producing my first (own) cd. It's a trio without drums, recorded with just three mikes - one in front of the guitar speaker, one in front of the saxplayer and one in front of the double bass, so every little noise is audible.
On the fast tempos i sometimes hear clicking noises, probably from the pick (stonepick) touching or hitting the pickup accidentally. This bothers me, but i seem to be the only one caring. The engineer thinks that this is okay and so does my wife and my two adult sons.

Of course noises of strings hitting the fingerboard are audible from the bass, also the saxophonekeys are audible sometimes.

Does anybody have experiences with this? What would be the common way - remove it? I can not remember hearing clicking noises on the recordings of my favorite players.

Thanks,
JN
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure do. It is worse on some guitars than on others. It is very prominent on my Gibson ES-175 (the pick hits the strings when I pick _right_ where the front edge of the pickup is). The worst, however, is on my Fender Telecasters. If a pick hits the covers of the neck pickups on them...YIKES!

In the case of the 175, I move my picking up a bit towards the fingerboard. On the 175 there is room between the pickup and the neck for this.

On the Telecasters I either move a little towards the bridge, or I use my thumb, a la Wes Montgomery. I like the thumb on the Telecaster, as it happens.

I don't notice it as much on my other archtops and solidbodies.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: recording archtop: clicking noises from the pick Reply with quote

jazznote wrote:
Of course noises of strings hitting the fingerboard are audible from the bass, also the saxophonekeys are audible sometimes.

Does anybody have experiences with this? What would be the common way - remove it? I can not remember hearing clicking noises on the recordings of my favorite players.


Some thoughts :
‘Favorite players’ I presume means for the most part old recordings. Things have changed radically since then, fidelity, dynamic range and recording methods reveal A LOT more detail.

Second, you’re listening too hard! Laughing What I mean is I do the same thing too often and pick out (and trip on) little details most people don’t or see as distracting as we do when auditing ourselves.

Additionally I've tried steel and stone picks some time ago and bottomline is they are noisy. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:05 am    Post subject: Re: recording archtop: clicking noises from the pick Reply with quote

jazznote wrote:
Hi,
Does anybody have experiences with this? What would be the common way - remove it? I can not remember hearing clicking noises on the recordings of my favorite players.

Thanks,
JN


I solved pick noise by using a softer pick, staying away from the pups as best I can. Stubby picks and a lower pup height help too.
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