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JakeJew

Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 2192 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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bjorn, open up a text based program like windows "notepad" or use a font where all the characters have the same width. Copy and paste the text into the post, highlight the portion you want to be in tab, and hit "code"
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Bjorn
Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Posts: 1035 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Jake, will try that tomorrow.....
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jamato

Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 202 Location: Northern NJ
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:26 am Post subject: Great Lines! |
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Hey Guys .. these are all great/super lines! ... It would be absolutley fantastic if someone could put these all together in a pdf. file annd make it available either trhough e-mail or from a server ... _________________ Music blows the dust off your soul...ChordMelody.Org |
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PaulD
Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 1130 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:44 am Post subject: |
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Here's something I'm fooling around with - Minor ii-V-i keeping a common tone on top. The last chord in each set just acts as a turnaround (the V of ii or similar substitute). All the examples are in Cminor (Dm7b5/G7/Cm7/A7) . You can mix these up as well. If you follow the patterns diagonally instead of straight accross, then the top line ascends or descends depending on which direction you folow (for example, play the Dm7b5 of example 1 followed by the G7 of example 2 followed by the C minor of example 3, and the Eb9 of example 4 to get an ascending top line).
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JakeJew

Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 2192 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:19 am Post subject: |
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fun, paul, thanks!
It's like a little game.
I like those later ones...
I'm trying a few, this is giving me some good ideas (and killing my hands...yow...)
Dm7b5
45556x
G7
78876x
Cm7
86876x
stretchy stretchy
Dm7b5
10 11 10 10 8 x
Db7
9 11 9 10 8 x
C-maj7
8 12 9 8 8 x
Dm7b5
10 x x 10 8 8
G7
x 10 x 10 9 8
Cm7
8 x 8 8 10 8
hmm
Dm7b5
10 10 10 10 x x
G7
10 11 9 10 x x
Cm7
8 (10) 8 8 6 x x
Keep em comin... |
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steve

Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 867 Location: oz
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Hey Paul many thanks for sharing that. I was just looking for another focus for practicing my voicings, inversions etc, other than putting them through the cycle.
Time to put this concept through some standards.
Some cool movements there too, I really dig the example 7's middle two chords. nice _________________ Miles is the answer. |
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steve

Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 867 Location: oz
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:10 am Post subject: |
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Come to think of it, that is a little similar (but not the same - different focus) to what I've been practising lately.
This was a practice exercise that was triggered off by our own ed norton, with the idea being that you go through chord inversions and focus on the intervals within the voicings. Then manipulate a specific tone or tones.
Eg, go through all of your minor inversions on all string sets and 1. identify the 7th, then 2. move it back one fret to create a m6. Then of course you could look at them as dom 9th chords instead, or of course m7b5's.
Here's a tabbed eg. Go through dom 7 inversions, identify the 5th and then sharpen it to create a 7#5.
The second line does the same only it raises the 5th to create a #5 and flattens the root to make a b9. You may notice that the new chord shape is a m7b5 (or m6 or dom9) chord shape. In fact this type of chord shape (substituion if you will) relationship starts to become quite exciting the more you delve in.
| Code: | G7 G7#5 G7 G7#5 G7 G7#5
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---8---8-----|---6---6-----|--15---16--|--
---7---8-----|---4---4-----|--12---12--|--
---9---9-----|---5---5-----|--15---15--|--
---8---8-----|---5---6-----|--14---14--|--
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G7 G7#5b9 G7 G7#5b9
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---8---9----|---6---6--------------
---7---8----|---4---4---------------
---9---9----|---5---6----------------
---8---8----|---5---6-----------------
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One of the latest things I realised was if I took my regular major 7 inversions and flattened the 3rd............aha! Minor/major 7
I'm right naive me. But happy.  _________________ Miles is the answer. |
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steve

Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 867 Location: oz
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:35 am Post subject: |
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erm....................you might want to try sharpening the root to create the b9 mentioned in the post above. Funny, but it works a whole lot better.
What day is it? _________________ Miles is the answer. |
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PaulD
Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 1130 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Jake, I might need an extra finger to play some of those Maybe I can pick one up at a second-hand store (rim shot) . They sound great though. Thanks! You're right, it's like a game. You can come up with tons of variations. This stuff is really good for chord-melody as well as comping.
Steve, that's excellent stuff. Very useful. And yes, you'd have to flatten the root quite a bit for it to become the b9
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ed norton

Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 763
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Steve for me to inspire You means the world, I'll work those out. Wow that's inspiring. Paul like I said when You speak we listen, thanks excellent stuff. There's Enough great stuff on this thread to keep a person real busy. |
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ed norton

Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 763
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Steve and Paul that stuff is awesome. I worked em' and applied em', continued em' ect... It would take to long to explain what I learned this morning. You guys are ballsy. Paul I worked Yours through the rest of C minor. I'll write out the chords I came up with later. Your subs inspire me to get ballsy with the choices. Great stuff guys. |
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PaulD
Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 1130 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Some more chord movement stuff...
This is the first 8 bars of "All the things you are".
In example 1, I'm starting with an F on top and ascending the top note of each subsequent chord by either major or minor 2nds
In example 2, same thing (ascending by 2nds, just starting with a G on top).
In example 3 I'm ascending the top note by minor 3rds
The chords listed under the examples are the original chords, not the resulting chords. They're not all winners, but some interesting stuff comes out when you try this. Also, when you work out lines to go over the resulting chords and play them over the original chords, you get some very cools sounds.
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ed norton

Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 763
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| That inspired a couple hours of complete madness, but fun nonetheless. All examples sound best with bass notes, great counterpoint which is what really gets me as a listener.. Ok then I worked common tones and kept getting a major 7 Sharp 11 on a couple chords. Found some more cool connections. total insanity, you are an original. a couple weird pulls and I had to double the third in those maj 7 chords with the sharp 11 on top. either that or make it maj9#11, but that was just so i could hear it better. the dom flat9's with the 13 on top have a weird pull especially on the G7, but it sounds very interesting. my favorite line is dm root on top, g7flat9 #5 on top, C maj7 third on top (ex 1). with the bass that sounds so sweet. Your examples always inspire allot of madness. the g7flat9#5 comes from a common innversion of C#9. |
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ed norton

Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 763
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| some I can't do with bass notes so i adjusted and cheated a bit. |
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steve

Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 867 Location: oz
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Ok here's a couple of examples creating lines using two triads over a given chord. I'll just write the chords/triads out 'cause you have the audio here:
DT1
| Code: | Chord Prog: Gm | Em7b5 A7b9 | Dm G7 | Bb7 A7 | Dm ||
Triads employed: C D+ | Db Eb | G A+ | Gm A+ | ||
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http://media.putfile.com/double-the-triad-1
DT2
| Code: | Chord Prog: Dm | Em7b5 A7b9 | Am7b5 D7b9 | Gm ||
Triads employed: G A+ | A Bb+ | Ab Bb+ | ||
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http://media.putfile.com/double-the-triad-2
There's a life time of work in this stuff.
[Edit] Oops, forgot to mention, these lines are Walt Weiskopf's not mine. _________________ Miles is the answer. |
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