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[steve]

I'm just trying out my new found skill thanks to my lesson from C.OSulluvan.

It's just a trial run, however, if you like why not post in some of your hippest bop licks over altered dom chords.

[JazzOnSix]

Okay, here's a simple, common move I learned from a horn player many years ago. Two-bar lick that weaves inside/outside using a combination of diminished intervals with fourths. Will also work over a II-V-I in C.

[steve]

Here's a concept that I like the sound of (and therfore use a lot), playing off a minor/major 7 or minor 9 chord a semitone up from the dom7 chord

[steve]

following up on the previous concept is to use the two dom chords found in the Ab melodic minor.

How about this:

[C. OSullivan]

Here's one that I think thast I made up (it may have been borrowed), I just love using it.

Remember, the dominant chord should be the VI chord. So, with E7 as the chord the I chord would be a G7. Think "I've Got Rhythm" or "Missle Blues."

[C. OSullivan]

[steve]

Firstly, apologies for the typo, C. OSullivan.

Loved your licks, great concepts.
I was a bit confused with the first one, did you mean Eb7, or should the lick be a semitone higher? Never the less a very bop sounding idea that I shall unashamedly steal.

Your second idea I loved! It took me a while to accomodate it into my own jazz schema if you like, but that first bar is a doozy! I ended up refingering it and looking at it as an Ab mel minor concept. A new sound to my repertoire.

[steve]

How about this concept for some creative ideas: Switching cadences.
originally V7 to I
often becomes ii V I
switch for a IV I (amen) cadence
Go one further and play IV to IVm to I

[JakeJew]

[Jazzy]

Hi folks....
Lots of great lines here...thanks
Here`s one of my favourites over Bb7(#5b9) - Ebm9


-------------------------------------|----------6-9--13-11--------------------------
----------7--6-----7----------------|-6-9-6-7-------------14-11-------------------
--------7--7--8-7---6------------6-|-----------------------------11---10-----------
---6-9------------------9-6-7-8----|--------------------------------13---11-8-----
-8-----------------------------------|--------------------------------------------9-8
--------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------

A great double-tempo line

[steve]

nice idea Jazzy! I've often employed the doubling back type idea as in your first bar, but never to that extent (that many times,loops). Sounds cool. Something to work on.

I absolutely love sharing the jazz stuff I have aquired (I'm a high school and private music teacher), but if this gets at all annoying please say.

following on from my last idea of switching cadences, how about this:
V7 I (in this case G7 C)
ii V7 I (Dm7 G7 C)
sub IV I (amen cadence) ( F C)
now look to the tritone sub, bvim7 bii7 I ( Abm7 Db7 C)
Abm7 Db7 is in the key of Gb.
Sub IV cadence for ii V ( play Bmajor7 for Abm7 Db7 )
and all of a sudden you are out there in a world that is closer to Michael Brecker, off whom I ripped this first idea (although this is my own interpretation of it)
I've gone minor for a change
The second idea uses a Bmajor7

[steve]

Here another cadence switching thingomajig, that again creates altered dom ideas.
Remember it is the concepts in these ideas that are important not the licks. I just made up most of these pooxy licks sat in front of the computer with a guitar.

this time, still heading for Cmajor, we sub the relative minor, Am7, and do a ii V into Am instead of C. This means you can revamp all of your old ideas and have them sound fresh! mmmm sweet economy.

[steve]

I have many more cadence switching ideas, all of which are handy for creating and discovering new sounds (combinations etc) in both improvisation and composition and arranging.

How about applying the concepts to a comp?
Take the minor 7 chord moved up a minor 3rd concept for example:

[steve]

ok here's one more, then I'm going to have to start charging.

This one is easy to use.
Playing the IVm cadence as a sub for the V7.
In this case Fm in place of the G7.
A line idea ans a comp idea.

Hope you had fun with some of the ideas.

[C. OSullivan]

^Like that one

Sorry, I can't come up with anything too elaborate right now, but try this.
V7-i, harmonic minor type cadence really complements it. I'm trying it out now, and I find that it's easy to throw in without any problems.