PlayJazzGuitar.com Forum Index PlayJazzGuitar.com Forum
Jazz Guitar Discussion
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Emily Remler Instructional Video
Goto page Previous  1, 2
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    PlayJazzGuitar.com Forum Index -> The Emerging Guitar Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
alfonso



Joined: 25 May 2005
Posts: 1256
Location: Sacramento
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
GuitarLaw,
Glad to hear someone is gonna put those DVD's out again. Emily was an awsome lady and it comes through in her videos. Hell even if you just go to youtube and check her out, it makes you think why didn't she put out more stuff. It's really yet another sad story of a musical legend being taken down the path to nowhere and a tragic end to a beautiful lady and her music. Reminds me of Billie Holliday, or Jimi Hendrix same sad story, same sad song just different words. later
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jazz621451



Joined: 16 Sep 2008
Posts: 1
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hello, could some one tell me if Emily Remler used the Jazz Melodic scale when playing a basic 12 bar blues. If so how did she use it? I am having a problem using the scale with the blues. It sounds great when played against an II-V-I or any other progression other than the blues.

Thanks,
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
JakeJew



Joined: 30 Jul 2005
Posts: 2192
Location: Boston, MA
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
jazz621451 wrote:
Hello, could some one tell me if Emily Remler used the Jazz Melodic scale when playing a basic 12 bar blues. If so how did she use it? I am having a problem using the scale with the blues. It sounds great when played against an II-V-I or any other progression other than the blues.

Thanks,


maybe I'm internetarded but I couldn't find a blues clip in this thread. but i'll try to be useful here...if this is a standard 12bb:

Code:
Bb7   |Eb7   |Bb7   |Fm7  Bb7

Eb7   |%   |Bb7   |G7

Cm7   |F7   |Dm7 G7 |Cm7  F7


you could use melodic minor a fifth up for some of the dominants (that makes lydian dominant) and you could use melodic minor a half step up for the dominants that are clearly leading to a chord a fourth up (that's the "altered scale"). If, hypothetically, you wanted to use melodic minor through out the whole blues, you could go like this

Code:
Fmel   |Bbmel   |Fmel   |Bmel

Bbmel   |%   |Fmel   |Abmel

Cmel   |Gbmel   |


F melodic minor for Bb7 gives Bb9#11 sound. Same with Bb melodic minor over Eb7, gives an Eb7#11 sound. Then B melodic minor over Bb7 gives a B7alt sound, same with Ab melodic minor over G7 or Gb melodic minor of F7. Depending on the instrumentation and how you phrase it, you can use melodic minor over a m7 chord too, kinda depends on the line.

Some things are tempo relative too...for example, if you have a fast ii V in Eb, so Fm7 to Bb7, taking up one bar, you could just play B melodic minor (the Bb altered scale) for that whole bar, you wouldn't neccessarily have to play over both chords. This could potentially sound a little funky if the tune were at 90 bpm, but hey go nuts.

But I'll echo Dewey Decibel's general sentiment, which is that you don't want to think of it this way, really. We find phrases we like - some of them use melodic minor, some of them don't. Smile And a similar statement, you can seek out some recordings where a pro is playing within melodic minor (it's EVERYWHERE) and then transcribe the lines and find out what the hell is going on. This is a better approach then just sheddin the scale on its own, imo.
_________________
"Inspiration may be a form of superconsciousness, or perhaps of subconciousness - I wouldn't know. But I am sure that it is the antithesis of self-consciousness." - Aaron Copland
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Jon1980



Joined: 30 Mar 2006
Posts: 169
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have that video and thinks she plays some great licks using her type 1 and 2 dominant method.

One thing that puzzles me is when she talks of the importance of using arpeggios (she says they are a really big deal) but doesn't seem to eleborate or demonstrate any.

She was certainly an amazing player and it is a shame she was taken from us.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    PlayJazzGuitar.com Forum Index -> The Emerging Guitar Forum All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2
Page 2 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group