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Volume Swell



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:34 am    Post subject: Playing over compound chords Reply with quote

I've been looking at some skunk funk lately by the brecker bro's, and I am unsure of how to navigate the "A7/Db" and so on. Is this an A7 chord with a Db in the bass? That is just an A7/C# so it doesn't make sense to me.

Any help is appreciated!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know Skunk Funk but probably you can play D harmonic minor or D major, depending on where the chord is resolving.
It is A7/C#, though sometimes you opt for A7/Db because Bbb7/Db is annoying to read even if that it what it is in that key.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its probably just a first inversion A7
ie A7 over C# bass

post the changes of the song here ..... and we will get it sorted
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an A7 chord with a third in the bass - nothing fancy. What to play over it depends on context of the tune/melody.

The trickier things are when the bass note is not a chord tone. So...A7/E or A7/C# or even A7/G are still really just A7 chords (though the last one has a bit of a different character to my ears). But A7/B or A7/C or A7/F or something becomes a whole nother issue...
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Jens



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JakeJew wrote:
The trickier things are when the bass note is not a chord tone. So...A7/E or A7/C# or even A7/G are still really just A7 chords (though the last one has a bit of a different character to my ears). But A7/B or A7/C or A7/F or something becomes a whole nother issue...


And actually that is then just finding a scale with the notes of A7 and the bass note (B, F, C etc.) Not exactly rocket science.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brecker Bros: Some Skunk Funk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg8adPaCgeY&feature=related
(White men losing the funk by playing too fast)

Given that it's Brecker Bros., don't forget the dbl. diminished option. Exclamation
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Word. Nothing like funk played by a saxophonist who looks like a college english professor and a trumpeter who looks like a duck hunter by the GAP. I expected him to pull out a duckcall and start blowing on that.

By the way, M, why must you always play the race card? Wink
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Volume Swell



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys, the key is Bb major/G min (2 b's)

Coming from the 2nd ending in the A section:

G/Db | Eb Db Eb Db | G/Db Eb/Db Db Eb/Db Db | G/Db | Eb/Db Db Eb/Db Db |

I actually realized after reading it at a more... reasonable hour that the A7/Db is not meant to be solo'd over. The above changes are instead.

I'm not really lost with these, they'll just take a fair amount of practice.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generic Sobriquet wrote:
Word. Nothing like funk played by a saxophonist who looks like a college english professor and a trumpeter who looks like a duck hunter by the GAP. I expected him to pull out a duckcall and start blowing on that.

By the way, M, why must you always play the race card? Wink


Ha! Well, it's not intended in an adverse or discriminatory fashion. Unfortunately, it's an acknowledgement that sometimes we inadvertently live up to the stereotypes: can't jump, can't dance, can't groove ...

It's embarrassing! Laughing
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