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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: What are some gizmos we haven't talked about? Reply with quote

There seems to be plenty of talk about guitars, amps, strings, cords, effects and other paraphernalia. How about some gizmos we haven't talked about? What would they be?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far, the sound of one hand clapping. One gizmo that I am currently enjoying is a book by Toshio Sudo, Zen Guitar. How is a book a gizmo? In Wiki, one definition of gizmo is an effect unit for electric guitar. In my world, this book is an effect for the electric guitarist: me.

In Zen Guitar, there are great ideas and philosphies, as well as great quotes from a diverse body of musicians. While reading, I have imagined music as being like a zen garden, and the musician the gardener. The garden is crafted according to the gardner, and tended according to what is needed at a given time. It is neither right nor wrong, just a creative interchange between elements, opportunity, creativity, and intent. In this idea, solo jazz guitar seems very much like a zen garden.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should find work with a politician/push pollster, advertising/marketing firm, an 'alternative medicine' peddler, or an evangelist. This is so transparent.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Secret2goodtoneispractice wrote:
... In my world, this book is an effect for the electric guitarist: me.

In Zen Guitar, there are great ideas and philosphies, as well as great quotes from a diverse body of musicians. While reading, I have imagined music as being like a zen garden, and the musician the gardener. The garden is crafted according to the gardner, and tended according to what is needed at a given time. It is neither right nor wrong, just a creative interchange between elements, opportunity, creativity, and intent. In this idea, solo jazz guitar seems very much like a zen garden.


That's a tenuous connection to this part of the forum: hardware oriented as I understrand the intent of the forum creator/moderator. Guitars, I understand, amplifiers too --- gizmos: not so much. I suppose it's a personal interpretive thing, so I accept your "gizmo" definition.

Much of the discussion that transpires here makes me wonder what the artists that set the bar for aspiring jazz guitarists would think if they read our posts ... You know, the guys that we all want to sound like.

Presuming nothing about the attitudes of those that have established the levels to which we aspire, I wonder what they would make of the "Zen" proposition. Would that be something that would occupy their thoughts instead of the next meal, where the bus would stop for the next bathroom break, payday, what fleabag hotel would accept them for the night ... and so forth.

Would they be thinking about whether they should use a solid-state amplifier that night or a tube amplifer and WHICH TUBES to use or the bias voltages to apply. Hmm, thinking about endorsement contracts, maybe Charlie Christian would be playing a Samick guitar. Can you see Wes with an SG? And maybe with a Marshall amplifier?

Accepting New Age opinions as "gizmos" opens up the discussion to the humor in the definition AND the applicability to the opinions of other times and other people.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I can get out of the way,

if I can be pure enough,

if I can be selfless enough,

if I can be generous and loving,

and caring enough to abandon what I have,

including my own preconceived, silly notions of what I think I am;

And become truly who in fact I am,

which is really just another child of God,

then the music can really use me.

Therein lies my fulfullment.

That's when the music starts to happen.


- - John McLaughlin: from Zen Guitar, Toshio Sudo, Simon & Schuster, Inc., NY, NY, pg 77
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I think you're onto something in a sense. The guitarist's who reach the pinnacle of the music we are here to appreciate not only have spent a lot of time playing the guitar, they have also spent a lot of time thinking about playing the guitar. You may have already seen this but just in case you haven't here it is: http://www.patmartino.com/Articles/GuitarPlayer_April_2004.pdf

What makes the guitar inherently different, though, is that it also has a vertical nature, because it allows you to move up and down – which is exactly what you do when moving from a higher string to a lower string or vice versa. This means that the fretboard is an x-y axis. “It’s a matrix,” adds Martino. By being both horizontal and vertical, you have latitude and longitude. It’s like a compass – north, east, west, and south.” - P. Martino.
Apparently great minds think alike Laughing because when I had started thinking like that on the guitar, more vertically, (before I read this btw) is when my playing really took off. When you think about it, it really makes a lot of sense because you have a lot more "real estate" on the fingerboard vertically than horizontally. So thinking more vertically opens up many more possibilities than simply thinking of a "scale in a box" thing. Then I realized I had always been thinking and playing along those lines but just hadn't taken that train of thought and expressed it to its fullest potential before. How's that for one that will bake your noodle? Laughing

Trying to separate music from emotion is a pitfall to be avoided at all costs - What is great music anyway if not emotion expressed as musical notes? Expressed poetically = "The universe heard my music and fell in love".
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serenity now, serenity now, serenity now...

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...hoochie mamaaa!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yanni, accompanied by Freddie Green + stratocaster
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "Three Tenors" - and Charles Mingus
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John McLaughlin and Duke Ellington
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grant Green, puzzling over the right overdrive/chorus/delay pedal ....
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howard Roberts, Barney Kessel discussing the merits of Monster Cables

Pete Jolly whacking away on a Casio, Oscar Peterson frowning

Kenny Burrell - checking out a Fender Jaguar (secret Joe Pass admirer?)

"The Ventures" rendering "Walk, Don't Run" on their Yamahas (Johnny Smith nodding in time ...)

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every guitarist has a special quality of sound.

The best ones will use a good ear, much sensitivity, and a thorough knowledge of music to prepare the nuances and color of sound.


- - Andres Segovia: from Zen Guitar, Toshio Sudo, Simon & Schuster, Inc., NY, NY, pg 128
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole problem can be stated quite simply by asking "Is there a meaning to music?" My answer would be, "Yes".

"Can you state in so many words what the meaning is?" My answer to that would be "No."

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