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jlart



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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:25 pm    Post subject: Bossa Nova corner Reply with quote

Well guys this is my first post on this subject and my writen english is not as good as my portuguese (haha), So please bear with me. What I am going to try and relate here is based on the same material I use for my studies and teachings.

My source of studies come from a book writen by a brazilian musician called Nelson Faria. His book "The Brazilian Guitar book" is a great source for learning this style of music. This will be a 2 part post Rythm and chord progressions so let's start.

Part 1 RYTHMIC PATTERNS:

Contrary to popular belief bossa nova rythm is seldon played in a 4/4 tempo but in 2/4, this is what makes the difference. although there maybe some pieces writen in 4/4 the vast majority are in 2/4. To play bossa In the Pocket is to mantain a constant bass on the beat and syncopation on subsequent beat and/or subdivisions. While playing bossanova, always keep in mind that thumb picks low strings (usually 5th and 6th) while forefinger, middlefinger and ring finger pick simultaneously 2nd 3rd and 4th or 1st 2nd or 3rb strings. some chords will require either set, thats the beauty of it, is up to you to add your choice of tonal colours. Right hand is the key to bossa playing! bellow we see some basic and commonly used patterns often used on it's own or mixed. Once you get the basic pattern down the others will be much easier then you can mix these patterns and hopefuly develop your own bossa Very Happy .

Pick any chord progression I VI II V - II V I anything and start to practice this rythmic patterns:

Basic pattern 1:


Variation 1:


Variation 2:


Variation 3:


Variation 4:


Variation 5:


I hope this is of some help pls, let me know so I can go on to the next part of the post.

JLart


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JakeJew



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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is great JL, thanks and keep em comin'.
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jlart



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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a clip of a famous piece of music using Basic pattern 1 listen carefully if you accelarate the rythm a little bit other famous pieces start to unveil like Insensatez, Desafinado etc...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKrfEEY2vq8

Here is a video tutorial showing how it is executed;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJd23DyNmr0

The guy is a terrible singer Smile, pls don't mind him.


Pls.: Sry this is all in portuguese it should'nt take the focus away from the main subject. Besides you guys can learn a little portuguese too Very Happy .

TC,
JLart
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jlart



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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something inspiring from the modern Bossa, it shows how the rythmic cells mutated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hATPfi7E9Ic

Hope you guys enjoy it as much as I do,

JLart
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

very cool. very cool indeed.

It's great to get this kind of info from someone who knows their shit.

And your written english is good, man. Post on!
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stratocasturbator



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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jlart you are my new favorite member. I love playing this stuff but it's definitely not natural at first. the right hand technique especially. this is such a fingerstyle tradition. I always play this stuff with a nylon string guitar and a pick in my mouth. Cool

I second the other comments--keep 'em coming! and thanks.
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jlart



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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the support guys, Appreciate it. This gives me incentive to keep on posting and this is always a 2 way street reviewing this stuff makes me see what I missed before Smile.

Anyways, here is another video that I think it is importante to see in which it demonstrates the variations mentioned at the begining of the thread.

http://www.youtube.com/user/aderbald#p/u/4/zLEdQMoM-4w

A little bit of the Brazilian Swing;

http://www.youtube.com/user/aderbald#p/u/5/_ANIfeKz__Y

Right hand exercises;

http://www.youtube.com/user/aderbald#p/u/7/n69rom18H5c

I like to point out that Aderbal Duarte is one of the most sought after bossa and samba professor/conductor in Bahia Brazil. Extensive experience in the so called "Functional Harmony".

Enjoy,

JLart
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Jazz Playa



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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very cool thanks for posting jlart
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jazzerchick



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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Great stuff.
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jlart



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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of you are more than welcomed, I am preparing the next part should be posting soon.

Here is another tasty piece from an almost unknowed bossa nova pionner;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJcyyR-kJQ8

There we go with that functional harmony again Smile

Take care all,

JLart
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's great! Lot's of good things of his on there. Thanks!
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randalljazz



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

romero lubambo is a GREAT player. but hardly a bossa nova pioneer, as he was three years old when chega de saudade became a hit. also, he may be 'unknown' in brazil, as he has lived in the united states since 1985, and is quite well-known and respected on the 'new york jazz scene'.

lula galvão--now there's a great 'unknown' player for ya...but also a second generation bossa nova artist.

é tudo de bom. muito legal.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great material man, i think a lot of people found this useful, including myself Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm wondering what songs most guitarists learning bossa nova (chords only) start off with ... i'm guessing the older tunes written by tôm jobím (like "meditation," "once i loved/amor em paz," "desafinado")? i'm considering taping an instructional video starting with the tune "só danço samba."
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

patskywriter wrote:
i'm wondering what songs most guitarists learning bossa nova (chords only) start off with ... i'm guessing the older tunes written by tôm jobím (like "meditation," "once i loved/amor em paz," "desafinado")? i'm considering taping an instructional video starting with the tune "só danço samba."


assuming you mean 'jazz guitarists'...just comb through this thread:

http://www.playjazzguitar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1251

my time on the forums would incline me to think:

1) blue bossa (i know, not really a bossa)
2) girl from ipanema
3) "black orpheus" (manha de carnaval)
4) quiet nights
5) how insensitive
6) triste
7) one note samba
Cool little boat
9) gentle rain
10) desafinado

about that order...something like that (i love so danco samba, and it is easy to play and improvise over...but not heard that much)
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