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Boss RC - 2 Loop Station

 
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rwmol



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:10 pm    Post subject: Boss RC - 2 Loop Station Reply with quote
I'm considering getting this loop station.

I have never owned a pedal or any type electronic effects device. I know nothing about them.

I have a four piece group. Guitar, bass, sax and drums. I would like to fill in a few songs when I solo. An example would be the vamp in This Masquerade.

Is this what I should be looking for? Is there something else that would fit my needs better?

Thanks for your input.

Randy
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Whirly



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
rwmol, I think it would be difficult for your drummer, and the other members of your group, to keep time with your recorded loop. It works great for solo players though. Oh, and practice. it's great for that.

Hopefully, someone has tried it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Whirly wrote:
rwmol, I think it would be difficult for your drummer, and the other members of your group, to keep time with your recorded loop. It works great for solo players though. Oh, and practice. it's great for that.

Hopefully, someone has tried it.


I agree, the 'group' keeping tempo with the loop will be difficult. Especially when in the heat of a tune and the tempo is 15 beats faster than the recorded loop, everything get's messy.

What I have seen work is when the loop is recorded while playing the tune, just before ths 'solo', because the tempo is already pretty solid. Can be tricky as well, if you stop the sample too soon, it all falls flat. Most certainly would take practice.
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rwmol



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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What I have seen work is when the loop is recorded while playing the tune, just before ths 'solo', because the tempo is already pretty solid. Can be tricky as well, if you stop the sample too soon, it all falls flat. Most certainly would take practice.


This is what I was talking about. I watched the demo and went over the features and it looks like it will work.

I was also curious if anyone had actually used this looper.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
rwmol wrote:

I was also curious if anyone had actually used this looper.


I've used it as a trial and had a lot of fun with it as a practice tool. Play a progression and solo over it sort of thing.

Just using it with a group would certainly have its challenges.
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Super Locrian



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The RC-2 is a very good compact loop pedal, but changing between different pre-recorded loops in real time is a hassle, IMO. Sometimes, instead of my loop I get one of the RC-2's backing track when attempting this. Imagine a very atmospheric, Fripp-like soundscape suddenly becoming interrupted by a loud blues shuffle groove! Evil or Very Mad

As a practice tool, the RC-2 is hard to beat, but for live looping you need something more sophisticated (as well as a drummer who's willing to work with a looper - chances are he won't be too happy about it anyway).
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M



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Seems like a good keyboardist would be a better addition to your group! Wink
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jlc



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I use the RC 50, very versatile, but i use it in solo performance. I record my rhythm track and then play the melody, improvisation over the top. I remember many years ago when devices first came out, i think they were generically called sidemen, some unions banned union players from using them because they naturally took work away form members.

Some groups use recorded tracks and the drummer triggers it remember SNL, they are recorded tracks, but am sure they are no more flexible than a loop machine. It will work but leaves little room for flexibility other than stopping it.
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