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woodshedder



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:57 am    Post subject: Reharmonizing Reply with quote

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to reharmonize the song, fly me to the moon? I am trying to use Robert conti's formula to reharmonize this song, but the substitutions do not sound that good. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Conti's approach is to use a chord for every melody note.
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lgiro



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't like that style at all. it sounds more like an exercise than music. i much prefer the way that Wes and Joe did it, especially Joe of course.

What is the point of a new chord strum for every melody note? Where else do you hear that style of arrangment in great music? It sounds incredibly stiff, robotic, and irritating. at least to my ears.

good for practice, bad for art.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you want to harmonize it (ie. play it as a chord melody)?
Or do you want to reharmonize it (change the harmonies to make the song
sound different)?

The chord melody mostly affects you the reharmonization would affect the whole band.
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woodshedder



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reharmonizing Reply with quote

I want to play this myself with no band members. I also agree that a chord for every melody note seems too much. But, I want to try and see what chords could be used for each melody note for education purposes. I can then filter out chords according to my taste. The song is in aminor/cmajor. The first 5 notes are c, b a, g, f. The standard chord is aminor for the first 4 notes and then dmin for the next note which is f. I wanted to reharmonize this somehow to color it a little more. Any suggestions?
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PaulD



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are a couple of examples of how I've played it in a chord-melody.

The first example is just using basic block chords.

The second has contrary motion with an ascending bass moving against the descending melody line.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:56 am    Post subject: Fly Reply with quote

l Am / Gb7+9 Gb7-9 l Dm7 Em7 FM7 / l G7 G9 Dm11 DbM7 l CM7 / / / l

Here's something for the first 4 bars. Simple, but you can incorporate the
melody into these easily and it's a little more movement. The melody
in this song is so strong leading home to each chord that it's hard to come up with something that doesn't sound overworked.
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PaulD



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a good one Polly- nice movement and the melody fits easily, just like you said. Thanks.

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M



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PaulD wrote:
Here are a couple of examples of how I've played it in a chord-melody.


The first thing I tried was almost identical to yours, Paul. Only I played Eb7 just prior to the D-, rather than the diminished chord.

Similarly, with the ascending bassline, that could have been Eb/Db, if that does anything for you (or OP).

Interesting how we first advise "don't try to play a chord on every melody note," but then we produce examples of same! Very Happy
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PaulD



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi M,

I have sometimes played Eb7, or even an E7#9. I really liked your suggestion of the Eb/Db...nice, thanks!

I see you have 2 posts today - I thought you had to wait at least a month between posts around here Laughing

Paul
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M



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PaulD wrote:
I see you have 2 posts today - I thought you had to wait at least a month between posts around here Laughing


Gack! I'm breaking the rules??? Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

M wrote:
PaulD wrote:
I see you have 2 posts today - I thought you had to wait at least a month between posts around here Laughing


Gack! I'm breaking the rules??? Rolling Eyes Laughing



I'll have to let you know in a month Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Paul, You already have two in May!! What's the deal?
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzerchick wrote:
Hey Paul, You already have two in May!! What's the deal?


There was a 'post twice and get the 3rd post free' deal this month.

How've you been Polly?

Paul
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