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So what do you do when everyone around you hates jazz?
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ingeneri



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to clarify the party thing -

It would be accurate to say that my taste in music is fairly ecclectic. Most days I'll listen to jazz but my cd, tape & vinyl collection ranges from Bach & Handel through Debussy in the western art music genre to Rancid & Voodoo Glow Skulls. It does not however include manufactured soft pop acts such as Kylie or Avril (or electronica for that matter) which constitutes the main musical diet of the rabble in question.

When selecting music for a crowd without polling them, I will select popular or classic rock to try to satisfy a wide demographic, which is why I chose Exile on Main St. Most at the soiree were happy to listen to it but there's one in every crowd.....

You can't please all the people all the time so why even bother ?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lgiro wrote:
for a party, a host should have the itention of entertaining guests and making sure they have a good time. food, wine, music, company.

to Jake's question:

1. if you make music only for others, and really know how to do that, you might be Barry Manilow. but you may not last very long or go down in history as one of the all time greats - at anything - other than maybe earnings. if you dont know how to do it well - keep your day job.

2. if you only make music for yourself, then it will depend on your tastes, interests and ability. if they dont have much in common with what most or even a few music fans are looking for......... keep your day job.

3. if you are playing for an audience/market and yourself, I think you will be like most successful artsists who have staying power and a loyal fan base. in other words, such artists certainly target an audience but they are targeting an audience they have something in common with. that is, an interest-love-passion for a particular style of music. i believe that most musicians, especially serious ones are working at being in this "category" whether they think very hard about it or not. and finally, if you're not very good at it..................


well it sounds like you're talking about having a career with music, I'm just talking about any involvement whatsoever.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone can't listen to your music at your house, then they're not worthy of the invite. (I don't like current commercial country at all, but I have a friend whose wife listens only to that, and as far as she knows, I like it. My friends' feelings are more important than my musical taste in this case - it's not like your integrity is hurt by listening to stuff you don't like. Hell, maybe you'll hear something you DO like, but wouldn't listen to otherwise. But someone who calls your music 'shit' while at your house should be shown the door forthwith...)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lgiro wrote:
"others" may constitute the masses, or it may only constitute their best friend.:


yeah i hear you, i'm definitely thinking of my friends a lot when i play
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just usually play Eric Dolphy really loud or Ornette Coleman's "Science Fiction"


Sometimes it's best just to go out of your way to be obnoxious.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SteveSecretia wrote:

Sometimes it's best just to go out of your way to be obnoxious.


Yeah sometimes I guess but in a family environment obnoxious don't help a darn thing so I often resort to.. Listening
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:41 am    Post subject: In defense of Jazz Snobs! Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:08 pm    Post subject: Re: In defense of Jazz Snobs! Reply with quote

ingeneri wrote:
I recommend only being freinds with people who like jazz. This automatically insures all your social contacts are deep thoughtful people with excellent taste. Do you really want to be around the rest?


Well, I'm not sure about that, the social group you just described in my experience are in need of a CAT scan more than most other general social groups! Laughin my arse off
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: In defense of Jazz Snobs! Reply with quote

ingeneri wrote:
I recommend only being freinds with people who like jazz. This automatically insures all your social contacts are deep thoughtful people with excellent taste. Do you really want to be around the rest?


Oh lordy I hope he's kidding!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: In defense of Jazz Snobs! Reply with quote

Gorecki wrote:
ingeneri wrote:
I recommend only being freinds with people who like jazz. This automatically insures all your social contacts are deep thoughtful people with excellent taste. Do you really want to be around the rest?


Well, I'm not sure about that, the social group you just described in my experience are in need of a CAT scan more than most other general social groups! Laughin my arse off

Wanna borrow my tackhammer? Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:17 pm    Post subject: Re: In defense of Jazz Snobs! Reply with quote

marksound wrote:
Gorecki wrote:
ingeneri wrote:
I recommend only being freinds with people who like jazz. This automatically insures all your social contacts are deep thoughtful people with excellent taste. Do you really want to be around the rest?


Well, I'm not sure about that, the social group you just described in my experience are in need of a CAT scan more than most other general social groups! Laughin my arse off

Wanna borrow my tackhammer? Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What to do?? I tell them to eat caca and continue playing and listening to jazz. If they have any respect coming, I might lower the volume... Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JakeJew wrote:
This brings up an interest question - is the purpose of our musical persuit to make ourselves happy, to make others happy, some combination of both, or neither?


I think the main idea behind creative-type things is to do for the sake of doing.


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